A Royal Connection to Harcourt, Beaumont, and Hamilton

Edit: My connection to Statesman Alexander Hamilton is probably false. His Y-chromosome was I-m253. My Y-chromosome is I-m223. Sorry...

I have a German Y chromosome and that I am closely related to several people with the surname Vance or Wentz by DNA. These Vance and Wentz families trace their lineage back to Good King Wenceslas. However, I do have reason to think that some from the Wence family migrated to Scotland before coming to America. However, this blog is not about that. This is about a different migration that is through the Vikings and King Bernard “The Dane,” next the Harcourts, next the Beaumonts of France, and finally the Hamiltons, and to the best of my knowledge does not include Good King Wenceslas

What I posted below is most importantly a direct lineage that makes that route possible starting with me and my most recent ancestors with the present surname “Hamilton” with the my Y chromosome and following its connection to back to King Bernard "The Dane" through Humphrey de Vaux, a member of the noble Harcourt family descended from the Vikings, and shares a more recent common ancestor that seems true given the ancestry of USA Statesman Alexander Hamilton. One might be able to see this is important to me because I share my surname with the late Statesman Alexander Hamilton.

My lineage starting from Hamilton goes through the Hamilton knights of Cadzow back to Gilbert de Hambledon son of William de Hambledon who traveled to Scotland from the Beaumonts, a noble family in France. Then, further back the Beaumonts come from the German Harcourt family.

Why? Look below, there is Humphrey of the Harcourt family that goes by the name Vaux, which is an alternate spelling of Vance! Thus, I suggest that my link with the modern German Vance family is probably about 1,000 years old, starting from the Harcourts. This is how I could be related to the Vance family by DNA, but wound up with a different surname.

HARCOURTS BY OTHER NAMES

1. Torf. According to Robert of Torigny (GND, viii. c. 37), Torf was the father of Turold and Turchetil (see also OV ii. 12). It is wrongly assumed that this Turchetil was a forefather of the Harcourts; he died childless, passing his estate to his great-nephew, Asketil (cart. Preaux, fol. 97v; CP xi. Instr., col. 201 a. d., Du Monstier, Neustria Pia, p. 522, 1663). Turold mar. Duvelina de Crepon, sister of Gunnor, the wife of ‘Duke’ Richard; they were ancestors of the Beaumont family of Pont-Audemer, and, according to Auguste le Prevost, of the Harcourts, with Turold and Duvelina being the parents of both Onfroi de Vieilles (GND vii. 1. 3.), and Turchetil. (See Ordericus, ed. Prevost, vol. i., p. 180; ii. pp. 14, 369, 370; iii. pp. 42, 229).

1.1. Turchetil.

1.2. ‘Turoldis teneri ducis pedagogus perimitur’ (Will. Gemet, VII.).

1.2.1. Hunfrid (Onfroi de Vieilles, alias Vetulis or Vaux, lord of Vieilles; a small commune in the canton of Beaumont, arrondissement of Bernay. (Humphrey)

1.2.1.1. Roger de Beaumont; Asketil, his dapifer, being a junior kinsman.

1.2.1.1.1. Robert de Beaumont, Ist Earl Leicester.

1.2.1.1.1.1. Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl Leicester, founder of Garendon in 1133, to which donated his kinsmen, Hugh de Berges, and his son, Asketil.

Something else to consider is that the USA statesman Alexander Hamilton had Gilbert de Hamilton and other Scottish nobility as ancestors and that Alexander Hamilton is in the I-M223 group, which most in the Hamilton clan are not I-M223! Imposters? I’ll take a bet that they are because I-M223 is strongly associated with vikings, which is where both Alexander Hamilton and I could share ancestors. However, I also claim to have descended from Gilbert de Hamilton and I am of the group I-M223, like Alexander Hamilton, but not like other Hamiltons other than ancestral originators of the clan starting with Gilbert de Hamilton, who is sometimes called Gilbert de Hambledon.

The major difficulty to explain though is why am I a Hamilton, but when given a DNA test there are no other Hamiltons with my DNA that have been tested. One would think that if I am a Hamilton, there would be some other Hamiltons with my Y chromosomal DNA on record.

This is what I think my lineage is though based on the ancestry of Statesman Alexander Hamilton: 

These might be my ancestors.

Bernard "the Dane"

He is supposed to have been the ancestor of two great Anglo-Norman baronial families, the Beaumonts and the Harcourts. Bernard the Dane (French: Bernard le Danois) (c. 880 – before 960) was a Viking jarl (earl) of Danish origins.

1. Touroude (Torulf, Turulf) de PONTAUDEMER

2. Humphry de Belmont (Vaux). This is where I (Craig) am suggesting that I get my German Y-Chromosome from that I share with Statesman Alexander Hamilton, and my Y-chromosome with the Vance and Wentz surname.

3.Roger de Beaumont (de Belmont) (c. 1015 – 29 November 1094)

4. Robert 1st Earl of Leichester (de Beaumont)

5. Robert 2nd Earl of Leichester

6. Robert 3rd Earl of Leichester

7. William de Hambledon (de Breteuil)

8. Gilbert de Hamilton

9. Walter FitzGilbert de Hamilton, 1st of Cadzow

10. Sir David FitzWalter de Hamilton, 2nd of Cadzow (ancestor of Statesman Alexander Hamilton)

This page has some of Statesman Alexander Hamilton's ancestry:

https://famouskin.com/family-group.php?name=5876%20alexander%20hamilton&ahnum=262144&fbclid=IwAR2knbmAvzBnTorx18_F7dNsErbZOOfU51n87v91S0Wp4QEGwn70zhh3GBY

Captain Hon. John Hamilton Was Exiled to the USA

1st Generation

James Hamilton, 7th Earl of Abercorn¹

M, #110267, b. 22 March 1685/86, d. 11 January 1743/44

Last Edited=22 Jan 2011

     James Hamilton, 7th Earl of Abercorn was born on 22 March 1685/86.¹ He was the son of James Hamilton, 6th Earl of Abercorn and Hon.Elizabeth Reading.¹ He married Anne Plumer, daughter of Colonel John Plumer and Mary Hale, between 26 March 1711 and 28 April 1711 atWidford, Hertfordshire, England.¹ He died on 11 January 1743/44 at age 57.¹ He was buried on 16 January 1743/44.¹
     He was styled as Lord Paisley between 1701 and 1734.¹ He was invested as a Fellow, Royal Society (F.R.S.) on 10 November 1715.¹ He wrote the bookCalculations and Tables on the Attractive Power of Lodestones, published 1729.¹ He succeeded to the title of 7th Lord Paisley, co. Renfrew [S., 1587]on 28 November 1734. He succeeded to the title of 3rd Baronet Hamilton, of Donalong, co. Tyrone and of Nenagh, co. Tipperary [I., 1660] on 28 November 1734. He succeeded to the title of 2nd Viscount Strabane [I., 1701] on 28 November 1734.¹ He succeeded to the title of 8th Lord Hamilton, Baron of Strabane, co. Tyrone [I., 1617] on 28 November 1734.¹ He succeeded to the title of 7th Earl of Abercorn [S., 1606] on 28 November 1734.¹ He succeeded to the title of 7th Lord Abercorn, co. Linlithgow [S., 1603] on 28 November 1734. He succeeded to the title of 2nd Baron Mountcastle, co. Tyrone [I., 1701] on 28 November 1734.¹ He succeeded to the title of 7th Lord Paisley, Hamilton, Mountcashell and Kirkpatrick [S., 1606] on 28 November 1734. He was invested as a Privy Counsellor (P.C.) on 20 July 1738.¹ He was invested as a Privy Counsellor (P.C.) [Ireland] on 26 September 1739.¹

Children of James Hamilton, 7th Earl of Abercorn and Anne Plumer

• James Hamilton, 8th Earl of Abercorn¹ b. 22 Oct 1712, d. 9 Oct 1789
• Captain Hon. John Hamilton+¹ b. c 1714, d. 18 Dec 1755
• William Hamilton² b. bt 1715 - 1717
• Lady Anne Hamilton+² b. 12 Jun 1715, d. 14 Dec 1792
• Rev. Hon. George Hamilton+³ b. 11 Aug 1718, d. 26 Nov 1787
• Plumer Hamilton² b. 1719/20
• Hon. Lt. William Hamilton² b. 18 Feb 1721, d. 1744
• Lady unknown daughter Hamilton² b. 27 Feb 1736

Citations

1. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 6. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
2. [S323] Sir James Balfour Paul, The Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's The Peerage of Scotland (Edinburgh, Scotland: David Douglas, 1904), volume I, page 63. Hereinafter cited as The Scots Peerage.
3. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume I, page 7.

2nd Generation: Note Captain Hon. John Hamilton has a brother William.

Captain Hon. John Hamilton¹

M, #110282, b. circa 1714, d. 18 December 1755

Captain Hon. John Hamilton|b. c 1714\nd. 18 Dec 1755|p11029.htm#i110282|James Hamilton, 7th Earl of Abercorn|b. 22 Mar 1685/86\nd. 11 Jan 1743/44|p11027.htm#i110267|Anne Plumer|b. 29 Jun 1690\nd. 7 Aug 1776|p11027.htm#i110268|James Hamilton, 6th Earl of Abercorn|b. c 1661\nd. 28 Nov 1734|p10660.htm#i106600|Hon. Elizabeth Reading|b. c 1669\nd. 19 Mar 1754|p10662.htm#i106612|Colonel John Plumer||p11027.htm#i110269|Mary Hale||p11027.htm#i110270|

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Captain Hon. John Hamilton ²

Captain Hon. John Hamilton was born circa 1714.¹ He was the son of James Hamilton, 7th Earl of Abercorn and Anne Plumer.¹ He married Harriet Craggs, daughter of Rt. Hon. James Craggs, on 13 October 1749.³ He died on 18 December 1755 drowned off Portsmouth.³
In December 1736 he was wrecked in a storm attending King George I from Hanover to England.⁴ He gained the rank of Captain on 13 February 1741 in the service of the Royal Navy.^1,4

Children of Captain Hon. John Hamilton and Harriet Craggs

1.      Anne Hamilton³ b. bt 1750 - 1755, d. 4 Nov 1764

2.     Sir John James Hamilton, 1st Marquess of Abercorn+¹ b. Jul 1756, d. 27 Jan 1818

Citations

1.       [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 6. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.

2.      [S3409] Caroline Maubois, "re: Penancoet Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 2 December 2008. Hereinafter cited as "re: Penancoet Family."

3.      [S8] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes (Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999), volume 1, page 5. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition.

4.      [S323] Sir James Balfour Paul, The Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's The Peerage of Scotland (Edinburgh, Scotland: David Douglas, 1904), volume I, page 63. Hereinafter cited as The Scots Peerage.

The story of Hon. John Hamilton is incorrect.  He was exiled to America.

John O. Hamilton, Sr.
Comes to America



John O. Hamilton, Sr., and his brother whose name is supposed to have been William, came from northern Ireland and landed at Baltimore about 1763 or 1764. John O. Hamilton, Sr. married Elizabeth Forster, (Foster), whom he met on shipboard.John Jr., was born on November 1, 1765, in Baltimore County, Maryland.The family moved thence into Bedford County, Pennsylvania, where the son John at thirteen years of age enlisted in the Revolutionary War. The father was already an army sergeant. The Children of John and his wife Elizabeth included:



John O. Hamilton, Jr. Born Nov 1, 1765

James Edward Hamilton Born abt. 1769

Samuel Hamilton Born abt. 1774

David Hamilton Born abt. 1776

Sarah Hamilton Born abt. 1778

*In the early part of the eighteenth century there lived in Northern Ireland a family of Hamilton's of Scotch-Irish blood, descendants of Sir Claude Hamilton of Scotland. In this family there were two sons. John and William, perhaps other children. One of these boys, having plucked a rose from the King's garden, incurred the displeasure of the King, causing his banishment from England. As a result of this banishment the brothers took a ship for America. On shipboard they met a young miss named Elizabeth. John became enamored with this Elizabeth and after landing at Baltimore, these two were married. This is the same John and Elizabeth who are the ancestors of the Hamilton family whose lineage is partially traced in this volume, and this same John became a sergeant in the Revolutionary War under Captain Isaac Seeley. His war record will be found elsewhere in the list of war records in this volume. In the spring of the year 1795, four sons of Sergeant John Hamilton, John Jr., Edward, Samuel, and David left their homes in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, came down the Ohio River on a flatboat and landed on the northern bank of the river at Fort Washington, later a town called Losantville on this site, on ground where Cincinnati is now located.
*Posted as a comment to my myspace blog years ago.  Recently, I had a hard time finding the reference, so I am posting it below, with references.
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http://ancestralties.blogspot.com/2010/10/1932-hamilton-family-history-notes-from.html
From Ancestral Lines of the Daniphan – Frazee – Hamilton Families. By Francis Frazee Hamilton P. 545.
In the early part of the 18 Century there lived in Northern Ireland a family of Hamiltons of Scotch Irish blood; descendants of Sir Claud Hamilton of Scotland. There were 2 sons in this family John & William? Perhaps other chil[d]. One of these boys, having plucked a rose from the Kings garden which caused his banishment from Eng. As a result of this banishment the brothers took ship for America. On board ship they met young miss named Elizabeth on landing at Baltimore John & Elizabeth were married. They are the same John & Elizabeth who are the Ancestors of the H [Hamilton] family whose lineage is partly traced in this book. And this same John became a Sergeant in the Rev. war under Captain Seeley.
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"Captain Hon. John Hamilton was born circa 1714."  But, Sgt. John O. Hamilton Sr., sometimes called John P. Hamilton was reportedly born abt. 1740.  That was possibly a phonetic error made in  transmission.

Science - Its In the Genes. This James Hamilton wrote the book Calculations and Tables on the Attractive Power of Lodestones, published 1729.

Copied from www.thepeerage.com

 

James Hamilton, 7th Earl of Abercorn¹

M, #110267, b. 22 March 1685/86, d. 11 January 1743/44

James Hamilton, 7th Earl of Abercorn|b. 22 Mar 1685/86\nd. 11 Jan 1743/44|p11027.htm#i110267|James Hamilton, 6th Earl of Abercorn|b. c 1661\nd. 28 Nov 1734|p10660.htm#i106600|Hon. Elizabeth Reading|b. c 1669\nd. 19 Mar 1754|p10662.htm#i106612|Colonel James Hamilton|b. c 1620\nd. 6 Jun 1673|p11025.htm#i110243|Elizabeth Colepeper|b. c 1637\nd. 1709|p11027.htm#i110263|Sir Robert Reading, 1st and last Bt.|d. c Mar 1689|p10662.htm#i106613|Jane Hannay|d. c Nov 1684|p11027.htm#i110265|

Last Edited=22 Jan 2011

James Hamilton, 7th Earl of Abercorn was born on 22 March 1685/86.¹ He was the son of James Hamilton, 6th Earl of Abercorn and Hon. Elizabeth Reading.¹ He married Anne Plumer, daughter of Colonel John Plumer and Mary Hale, between 26 March 1711 and 28 April 1711 at Widford, Hertfordshire, England.¹ He died on 11 January 1743/44 at age 57.¹ He was buried on 16 January 1743/44.¹
He was styled as Lord Paisley between 1701 and 1734.¹ He was invested as a Fellow, Royal Society (F.R.S.) on 10 November 1715.¹ He wrote the book Calculations and Tables on the Attractive Power of Lodestones, published 1729.¹ He succeeded to the title of 7th Lord Paisley, co. Renfrew [S., 1587] on 28 November 1734. He succeeded to the title of 3rd Baronet Hamilton, of Donalong, co. Tyrone and of Nenagh, co. Tipperary [I., 1660] on 28 November 1734. He succeeded to the title of 2nd Viscount Strabane [I., 1701] on 28 November 1734.¹ He succeeded to the title of 8th Lord Hamilton, Baron of Strabane, co. Tyrone [I., 1617] on 28 November 1734.¹ He succeeded to the title of 7th Earl of Abercorn [S., 1606] on 28 November 1734.¹ He succeeded to the title of 7th Lord Abercorn, co. Linlithgow [S., 1603] on 28 November 1734. He succeeded to the title of 2nd Baron Mountcastle, co. Tyrone [I., 1701] on 28 November 1734.¹ He succeeded to the title of 7th Lord Paisley, Hamilton, Mountcashell and Kirkpatrick [S., 1606] on 28 November 1734. He was invested as a Privy Counsellor (P.C.) on 20 July 1738.¹ He was invested as a Privy Counsellor (P.C.) [Ireland] on 26 September 1739.¹

Children of James Hamilton, 7th Earl of Abercorn and Anne Plumer

• James Hamilton, 8th Earl of Abercorn¹ b. 22 Oct 1712, d. 9 Oct 1789
• Captain Hon. John Hamilton+¹ b. c 1714, d. 18 Dec 1755
• William Hamilton² b. bt 1715 - 1717
• Lady Anne Hamilton+² b. 12 Jun 1715, d. 14 Dec 1792
• Rev. Hon. George Hamilton+³ b. 11 Aug 1718, d. 26 Nov 1787
• Plumer Hamilton² b. 1719/20
• Hon. Lt. William Hamilton² b. 18 Feb 1721, d. 1744
• Lady unknown daughter Hamilton² b. 27 Feb 1736

Citations

1. [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 6. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
2. [S323] Sir James Balfour Paul, The Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's The Peerage of Scotland (Edinburgh, Scotland: David Douglas, 1904), volume I, page 63. Hereinafter cited as The Scots Peerage.
3. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume I, page 7.

Of Peerage and Nobility: My Connection to the Castilla Family of Spain Through England and Scotland

Edward I 'Longshanks', King of England and Eleanor de Castilla, Comtesse de Ponthieu

Edward II, King of England and Isabelle de France

Edward III, King of England and Philippe de Hainaut

John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster and Blanche of Lancaster, Countess of Derby

Sir John de Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset and Lady Margaret de Holand

James I Stewart, King of Scotland and Lady Joan Beaufort

James II Stewart, King of Scotland and Marie von Geldern

James III Stewart, King of Scotland and Margaret Oldenburg, Princess

of Denmark

James IV Stewart, King of Scotland and Marion Boyd

Catherine Stewart and James Douglas, 3rd Earl of Morton

Lady Margaret Douglas

Claud Hamilton 1st Lord Paisley

James Hamilton, 1st Earl of Abercorn

Sir George Hamilton 1st Baronet, of Donalong

James Hamilton Groom of the Chamber to Charles II

Sir James Hamilton 6th Earl of Abercorn

James the seventh Earl of Abercorn, Lord Paisley

Hon. John Hamilton/Sgt. John O Hamilton Sr. in American Revolution

David/Jacob Hamilton

Levi Weirick Hamilton

William Newton Hamilton

Harry Hamilton

Link to My Grandad's Jet Fuel Patent

http://www.google.com/patents?id=xMlVAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=harry+hamilton+netrona&source=bl&ots=vOoxkU34Ny&sig=zKmw1gOJkqPDgvUNBKszi0sdIM4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Dpg_UKSSI4bd0QGSiYH4Cw&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=harry%20hamilton%20netrona&f=false

Link To My Granddad's Contribution to a Coal Gasification Patent

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and links to his other patents
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