Had long thought I was Scottish (the Hamilton clan is the 2nd most noble clan in Scotland), then German as some people I'm closely related to are German, having the last name Wentz and thought to descend from "Good King Wenceslas" and the Will of the first USA Hamilton ancestor of mine is written in German, around the year 1776, but I still yet might be Scottish, because that is what was handed down verbally. I'm thinking my German ancestors crossed through Scotland.
I'm not a Hamilton, but a Vance though Hamilton is Scottish, while Vance can be Scottish or German. I have no Hamilton that I'm related to by DNA on DNA record that I know of. It just so happens that in 1770 the name Vans was changed to Vance in Scotland. Here is a link to the
Vans crest: https://www.scotclans.com/scottish-cl…/clan-vans/vans-crest/
Why Vance and not Hamilton? My DNA shows many close genetic links, within a few generations, to both the Wentz and Vance family. Wentz is German however, but many Germans were given the Anglicized name Vance when they came to America. Both Vance and Wentz surnames must be related to me according to my DNA, but which country, as I am closely related to several people with the Wentz surname?
So German or Scottish, it's hard to say! Best support for the Scottish tale is that the 4 most closely related people to me have the last name Vance not Wentz, and their most distant ancestors do not have Wentz either, meaning their lineage is more closely Vance than Wentz. The DNA says this about my 4 closest Vance relatives "A 36/37 match between two men who share a common surname (or variant) indicates a close genealogical match. Very few people achieve this close level of a match, and it is within the range of most well-established surname lineages in Western Europe."
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Monday, June 15, 2020
Friday, August 25, 2017
German Hamilton Line - Jacob Hamilton
Jacob was the first German Hamilton in America known that is a part of my genealogy. He probably changed his name from Wence or Vance according to my Y Chromosomal DNA.
Jacob Hamilton seemed to appear out of nowhere. He first appears on the Perry County census in 1830, as age 20-30 with a wife age 20-30. He is listed as purchasing property April 1, 1834. He was a saddler by trade.
Tuesday, May 12, 2015
Good King Wenceslas - Possible Y-DNA Royalty Link (Corrected)
My Y chromosomal DNA shows a strong connection to the German surname Vance, or Wentz. The surname Wentz is thought to have a connection to various Deutch Kings. My surname is Hamilton, but the Y DNA says I have a close connection to the surname Vance. How close? 37 marker close at
37 MARKERS - 11 MATCHES to the of Vance or Wence.
37 MARKERS - 11 MATCHES to the of Vance or Wence.
According to Wikipedia:
Y-DNA testing results are normally stated as probabilities: For example, with the same surname a perfect 37/37 marker test match gives a 95% likelihood of the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) being within 8 generations,[22] while a 111 of 111 marker match gives the same 95% likelihood of the MRCA being within only 5 generations back.[13]
[22] references www.familytreedna.com This is the company that did my Y chromosome DNA test.
What does it mean to me? It's long shot, but there may be some relationship to German Royalty, or maybe a saint. Having the surname Vance/Wentz here are 4 males that match me within 1 of 37 markers, meaning 36/37 markers match; 2 matches within 2 of 37 markers or 35/37 markers match; 5 matches within 3 markers or 34/37 match. Those are the males with the surname Vance/Wentz that are very genetically close to me.
More here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_King_Wenceslas
"Good King Wenceslas" is a Christmas carol that tells a story of a Bohemian king going on a journey and braving harsh winter weather to give alms to a poor peasant on the Feast of Stephen (December 26, the Second Day of Christmas). During the journey, his page is about to give up the struggle against the cold weather, but is enabled to continue by following the king's footprints, step for step, through the deep snow. The legend is based on the life of the historical Saint Wenceslaus I, Duke of Bohemia or Svatý Václav in Czech (907–935). The name Wenceslas is a Latinised version of the old Czech language "Venceslav".
"Good King Wenceslas" is a Christmas carol that tells a story of a Bohemian king going on a journey and braving harsh winter weather to give alms to a poor peasant on the Feast of Stephen (December 26, the Second Day of Christmas). During the journey, his page is about to give up the struggle against the cold weather, but is enabled to continue by following the king's footprints, step for step, through the deep snow. The legend is based on the life of the historical Saint Wenceslaus I, Duke of Bohemia or Svatý Václav in Czech (907–935). The name Wenceslas is a Latinised version of the old Czech language "Venceslav".
The Wentz/Wantz origin cut and pasted from http://vancehistoryonline.blogspot.com/p/short-history-of-vance-surname.html
Many of these families have traced their surname origins to original immigrants in the 18th or 19th century from Germany or Switzerland whose last name was Wentz or a variant like Wantz. In their new English-speaking home, the last name sounded like "Vance", and either through regular usage or by the pen of a government official the new spelling stuck.
Several books (see Online Books of Interest) describe the origin of the Wentz surname as a diminutive of "Wenceslaus" or the German variant "Wenzo", and track the name's association with a Saint Wendelin and of course several kings named Wenceslaus, with variants "Wenzelo" from 1198 through "Wenzel" in the 1300s. "Wentz" and "Wenz" were later variants appearing in the 1300s and 1400s near Basel in Switzerland and several locations in Germany. Other sources cite Slavic variants like Vaclav but agree on the same basic timeline.
The stories say an original Wentz family came out of Bohemia (part of the current Czech republic) or Pomerania (now part of Germany and Poland on the south Baltic Sea) and migrated into Bavaria in western Germany and to the city of Basel in Switzerland some 700 years ago. These stories have so far not been verified. In the 1700s and 1800s, however, several German and Swiss Wentz families immigrated to the US where the name became written as Vance.
Good King Wenceslas - Possible Y-DNA Royalty Link
My Y chromosomal DNA shows a strong connection to the German surname Vance, or Wentz. The surname Wentz is thought to have a connection to various Deutch Kings. My surname is Hamilton, but the Y DNA says I have a close connection to the surname Vance and Wentz. How close? 37 marker close at
37 MARKERS - 8 MATCHES of which 7 have the surname Vance or Wentz.
According to Wikipedia:
Y-DNA testing results are normally stated as probabilities: For example, with the same surname a perfect 37/37 marker test match gives a 95% likelihood of the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) being within 8 generations,[22] while a 111 of 111 marker match gives the same 95% likelihood of the MRCA being within only 5 generations back.[13]
[22] references www.familytreedna.com This is the company that did my Y chromosome DNA test.
What does it mean to me? It's long shot, but there may be some relationship to German Royalty, or maybe a saint.
More here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_King_Wenceslas
The Wentz/Wantz origin cut and pasted from http://vancehistoryonline.blogspot.com/p/short-history-of-vance-surname.html
Many of these families have traced their surname origins to original immigrants in the 18th or 19th century from Germany or Switzerland whose last name was Wentz or a variant like Wantz. In their new English-speaking home, the last name sounded like "Vance", and either through regular usage or by the pen of a government official the new spelling stuck.
Several books (see Online Books of Interest) describe the origin of the Wentz surname as a diminutive of "Wenceslaus" or the German variant "Wenzo", and track the name's association with a Saint Wendelin and of course several kings named Wenceslaus, with variants "Wenzelo" from 1198 through "Wenzel" in the 1300s. "Wentz" and "Wenz" were later variants appearing in the 1300s and 1400s near Basel in Switzerland and several locations in Germany. Other sources cite Slavic variants like Vaclav but agree on the same basic timeline.
The stories say an original Wentz family came out of Bohemia (part of the current Czech republic) or Pomerania (now part of Germany and Poland on the south Baltic Sea) and migrated into Bavaria in western Germany and to the city of Basel in Switzerland some 700 years ago. These stories have so far not been verified. In the 1700s and 1800s, however, several German and Swiss Wentz families immigrated to the US where the name became written as Vance.
Friday, November 22, 2013
7 Things about me that you may or may not know
1. I was an Electrochemist at the Marine Biological Laboratory in Woods Hole, MA for a few years, and as a result I believe science can be a crooked discipline full of lies and false claims.
2. I have been on 4 missionary trips to La Romana in the Dominican Republic in order to build a hospital for Hatian refugees.
3. I practice Judaism as a religion. However, I am not Jewish nor Christian.
4. I played guitar in an ensemble for the New England Jazz Fest.
5. My former best friend and best man at my wedding is no longer my friend because he mistreated my son. My son was so young he could barely stand, and this monster of a man blew marijuana smoke in his face.
6. I believe that I talked to G-d when I was a student at Rutgers in New Brunswick, and this led me to believe that I am the messiah, but not Gd.
7. I have a diagnosed digestive enzyme disorder that causes me to experience a high on opiates if I consume gluten, milk, or milk products. This disorder may have led some people to think I was shy in high school, but under normal circumstances, meaning when I am not eating these foods and I am taking a digestive enzyme, I am much more able to be outgoing. Also, I have a milk and milk products allergy that if I consume, or sometimes I am just around milk, it causes me to get brain fog.
2. I have been on 4 missionary trips to La Romana in the Dominican Republic in order to build a hospital for Hatian refugees.
3. I practice Judaism as a religion. However, I am not Jewish nor Christian.
4. I played guitar in an ensemble for the New England Jazz Fest.
5. My former best friend and best man at my wedding is no longer my friend because he mistreated my son. My son was so young he could barely stand, and this monster of a man blew marijuana smoke in his face.
6. I believe that I talked to G-d when I was a student at Rutgers in New Brunswick, and this led me to believe that I am the messiah, but not Gd.
7. I have a diagnosed digestive enzyme disorder that causes me to experience a high on opiates if I consume gluten, milk, or milk products. This disorder may have led some people to think I was shy in high school, but under normal circumstances, meaning when I am not eating these foods and I am taking a digestive enzyme, I am much more able to be outgoing. Also, I have a milk and milk products allergy that if I consume, or sometimes I am just around milk, it causes me to get brain fog.
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Monday, June 24, 2013
13th Zerah: I Still Do Believe That I am a Zerahite
As far as my thinking that I am a Zerahite, that much is affirmative. I belong to the Haplogroup of what I believe to be Esau's, where Zerah is a son of Reuel. That would be Haplotype I. The word Zerah comes up in the Torah several times. In Numbers 26, the Zerahites are mentioned as a son of Reuben, a son and tribe of Israel who lost the blessing. That much is clear to me. Edom committed idolatry, and so did I, but once I conceived that I had, I refused to let myself worship, and considered the idol to be horrible, and that I committed idolatry was a terrible thing, but you see, that incident helped me know right from wrong. That the Zerahites are listed as sons of Reuben, simply to me indicates that the tribe of Reuben adopted me, while I had lost the blessing in my college years.
Sunday, June 9, 2013
Reneging on Many of My Earlier Blogs
The data for the first 12 markers are in. Nearly everyone, and it wasn't many, had a different last name than I. This means that my Y chromosome comes almost entirely from men who have had sex with someone who is not their wife.
However, I belong to Haplogroup I, and at this point I still believe I descend from the Milesian Jews that traveled to Ireland and Scotland, and did not come to Great Britain during the Norman conquest. Many of the various names of folks that are genetic matches with me did at least have a family crest.
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